in this presentation I would like to talk with you about Osama bin Laden’s death – he was killed on 1st May 2011 in his home in Abbottabad. Osama bin Laden(full name – Osama bin Mohammed bin Awad bin Laden) was the founder of al-Qaeda- the terrorist organization which is responsible for the terrorist attack on the World Trade Center in U.S.
“Justice has been done” these words U.S. President announced the world that Osama bin Laden is dead.
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All, Americans and the rest of the world were waiting for this for almost ten years. When it finally happened, Americans went out into the streets and celebrated. Osama's death cheered them up. They acted like it was something really happy, and of course it was in some way. But on the other hand, it caused some controversies, because, all in all, it was the human's death. Some people think that the enjoyment of the death is out of place. There were also some voices that Osama was defenseless and it wasn't necessary.Watch this movie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tnin3buU0fI
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How the Americans celebrated the Osama's death
There is one more strange (and funny in some way) fact that the Americans have found their own hymn for those days. It was the... Miley Cyrus song: “Party in the U.S.A”. People put it to their Facebook and Twitter walls. There are a lot of comments connected with Osama's death on YouTube, under the videoclip. Some people also sang this song during the demonstration near the White House. Isn't it a little bit silly?
Watch the Cyrus' song:
1. Answer the questions from the text
2. What do you think about Osamas killing? Whether it was the right decision?
3. What do you think about that how the Amercians celebrated Osama's death?
What do you think about Osamas killing? Whether it was the right decision?
ReplyDeleteOsama bin Laden was responsible for murdering thousands of innocent civilians, so yes I am indeed happy that this monster is dead.
Furthermore I'd even say that for all this suffering he caused he deserved much more painful death then simple bullet in a head, people were burned alive in World Trade Center and Pentagon.
What do you think about that how the Amercians celebrated Osama's death?
They celebrated the fact that person who killed thousands of their countrymen without hesitation is dead and no longer threatens their lives, I think it’s a very good reason to celebrate.
Regarding the song and 'way of celebrating' it doesn't really matter if they consider it a good way then I’m absolutely fine with this.
By the way I don’t remember anyone whining about how “the enjoyment of the death is out of place” when Muslims celebrated fall of twin towers:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrM0dAFsZ8k
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I think that killing Osama Bin Laden was the right step that Americans took in the fight against terrorism. Even though the best would be if he was captured alive in this case that was not possible and he had to be killed.
ReplyDeleteI hope that the war on terrorism will come to an end thanks to his death.
I think that celebrating somebody’s death is not right. Even if it was the worst terrorist ever that walked on earth it should not be celebrated. In the end it is another human being and he will pay for his deeds in the afterlife.
Yeah I agree with Hubert! To celebrate someone's death..? it's just not right especially in this weird american way..(like writing a song because of it). They know really good that the Muslims are wiling to take revenge. They don't need to be provoked.
ReplyDeleteAnd about what Michal wrote "By the way I don’t remember anyone whining about how “the enjoyment of the death is out of place” when Muslims celebrated fall of twin towers" nobody said it's ok, it's extremely inhumane to do things like that. In my opinion such behavior does not lead to anything good
I think that reaction of the Americans was predictable. Killing Osama bin Laden was a gesture for masses. For me it was something like public execution in the Middle Ages. Of course, it wasn't enough for many as we can see from Michał Opoka's comment. I wonder what would satisfy them - public tortures?
ReplyDeleteIn a way I find interesting fact that he was killed, as if someone would like to avoid his trail. In a country of law and respect of human rights he should be trailed as Nazi criminals. Osama wasn't dangerous any more and he didn't play a significant role in world of radical Muslims, or at least he wasn't able to act any more. He was rather a fugitive nowadays. What could he say if he would have been trailed?
Celebrating someone's death is barbarian for me. I understand feeling of alleviation, but when I hear that people "feel positive energy and happiness", I'm confused.
I think absolutely in the same way as Asia. It looks a little bit horrifying when in ours time people feel a pleasure of someone death. I know that for simple Americans everything is white or black and Osama had been regarded as pure evil from cartoon. It’s not weird at all due to the fact that they are educated on naive Hollywood cinema. I was shocked that in such a high developed country where everything has to be political correct where the state protects the rights of everyone and everything, people are so primitive as in ancient Rome. I know that Osama killed many people and it was a real tragedy but it is not an excuse. Revenge and desire of blood is inhumane. I'm lost for words.
ReplyDeleteHubert said...
ReplyDelete“I think that celebrating somebody’s death is not right. Even if it was the worst terrorist ever that walked on earth it should not be celebrated. In the end it is another human being and he will pay for his deeds in the afterlife.”
For me by his actions he had forfeited all his human rights and made himself undistinguishable from dangerous animal which have to be killed.
s8939 said...
“Yeah I agree with Hubert! To celebrate someone's death..? it's just not right especially in this weird american way..(like writing a song because of it). They know really good that the Muslims are wiling to take revenge. They don't need to be provoked.”
According to people such as Bin Laden we provoke them by not converting to Islam, if they could conduct terrorist attack in US they would already have done this before killing bin Laden.
It’s hard to provoke someone who wants to murder you anyway.
s8939 said...
“And about what Michal wrote "By the way I don’t remember anyone whining about how “the enjoyment of the death is out of place” when Muslims celebrated fall of twin towers" nobody said it's ok, it's extremely inhumane to do things like that. In my opinion such behavior does not lead to anything good”
Problem for me is not that people are saying that what they did on 9/11 was ok but the fact that when US do something like killing Bin Laden it’s immediately under media attack from all these “moral authorities” while at the same time the same people are quite silent when radical Muslims do things that are not even comparable.
asia engel said...
ReplyDelete"I think that reaction of the Americans was predictable. Killing Osama bin Laden was a gesture for masses. For me it was something like public execution in the Middle Ages. Of course, it wasn't enough for many as we can see from Michał Opoka's comment. I wonder what would satisfy them - public tortures?"
1) What would this "gesture for masses" be for? Next elections are in November 2012 so impact of killing Osama will be negligible by that time and most important issue is the economy.
I don't like Obama but even I wouldn’t accuse him of risking soldiers’ lives and revealing top secret military chopper technology to Chinese just to satisfy someone....
2) If you speak about gesture for the masses, middle ages and public executions that’s exactly what Al-Qaeda has been doing when they slowly cut people’s heads with knife and broadcasted it to the internet.
asia engel said...
“In a way I find interesting fact that he was killed, as if someone would like to avoid his trail. In a country of law and respect of human rights he should be trailed as Nazi criminals.”
Too bad he didn’t give that right to innocent people killed in all these attacks.
Furthermore he personally declared war on USA so killing him was an absolutely legal act of self-defence (which even Russian FM confirms).
asia engel said...
“Osama wasn't dangerous any more and he didn't play a significant role in world of radical Muslims, or at least he wasn't able to act any more. He was rather a fugitive nowadays. What could he say if he would have been trailed?”
Sorry but that’s just not true, materials gathered in this raid indicate he was active leader of Al-Qaeda and was planning next attacks.
asia engel said...
“Celebrating someone's death is barbarian for me. I understand feeling of alleviation, but when I hear that people "feel positive energy and happiness", I'm confused.”
When US troops kill one dangerous terrorist and Americans celebrate you say its barbarian, but what can you say about Muslims celebrating killing thousands innocent civilians? Can you call them barbarians?
Furthermore don’t you think there is a huge difference between killing innocent people and mass murderer?
Małgorzata Suska s4429 said...
"I know that for simple Americans everything is white or black and Osama had been regarded as pure evil from cartoon. It’s not weird at all due to the fact that they are educated on naive Hollywood cinema."
On what do you base all these statements? I hope not on some stupid youtube movies... Have you ever been in America? There is more then 300 million people in the USA and you put them all in one stereotype. That sounds quite racist to me.
Małgorzata Suska s4429 said...
"I know that Osama killed many people and it was a real tragedy but it is not an excuse. Revenge and desire of blood is inhumane. I'm lost for words."
I'm afraid that you mistake desire of blood with desire of justice, he commited an atrocity and people are happy that justice has been done.
"quite silent"??? about what Muslims did? you probably don't know what happened with people from all over the world once they knew about it. How it changed the attitude towards Muslims..
ReplyDeleteYes he was like an animal but we are not! Celebrating someone's death even bad man is an animal's behaviour. If we are "better" we cannot behave in the same cruel way as terrorists.
ReplyDeletes8939 said...
ReplyDelete“"quite silent"??? about what Muslims did? you probably don't know what happened with people from all over the world once they knew about it. How it changed the attitude towards Muslims.. “
I'd say this was caused by 9/11 attacks themselves, not by celebrating Muslims.
Małgorzata Suska s4429 said...
“Yes he was like an animal but we are not! Celebrating someone's death even bad man is an animal's behaviour. “
Do you know any animal that celebrate death of another creature :P? Furthermore it's not really about death but what it symbolizes - triumph of justice.
Małgorzata Suska s4429 said...
“If we are "better" we cannot behave in the same cruel way as terrorists.”
So we do not cut other's people heads with knifes just because they don‘t believe in the same religion, you cannot say that American celebrations are “the same cruel way” as this.
I just said that..I mean wrote; ?
ReplyDeleteThe government of each country should fight terrorism. In my opinion Osama's death was necessary. Despite this, celebrating this fact is out of place and a bit daft. His death may cause a wave of anger from Islam's world. Thus, I don't feel safer.
ReplyDeleteDeath of Osama ben Laden due to the intervention of the U.S. Army special forces evokes many emotions. To many of us, "closed" in the safe world of the European Union, it raises questions: whether it was absolutely nessesary, whether we should be happy about a death of an enemy and so on.
ReplyDeleteLiving in such a world we are not always able to judge what happened. There is a huge difference between different people's points of view on safety. Some people have to deal with crimes and punishments everyday, such as Palestinians and Jews. Others know it only from movie creations or video games.
I hope I will never find myself in such a situation, when after the punishment of a person who has hurt someone from my family I feel relief or maybe happiness.
It's difficult to be surprised with the behavior of the Americans who felt that way after the punishment of the terrorist.
Islam is currently one of the world's largest religions. Its image as presented in the media is not always consistent with reality. Unfortunately, it is not a religion of peace, ecumenism and cooperation with other religions. Koran, the Holy Book of
Islam is constructed in a very specific way. It can justify every good deed and every wickedness. Obviously, not all Muslims are terrorists. However, some of them are trying to use the book only as an excuse for their "fight with the infidels" or terrorism.
Non-equal relation of this religion towards "the world outside the Islam", on one hand enforces the right to build a mosque in every European city, or even in "ground zero" in New York City, on the other hand doesn't allow to bring (to Saudi Arabia for example) the Holy Bible, not to mention to build a church there.
We can observe the same situation when we talk about how Muslim women are treated. In some countries, they are so incapacitated by this religion that they can't even drive a car.
The problem is too complicated to discuss it in only a few sentences, without emotion, conspiracy theories and using similar "measures" when evaluating it.
I wouldn't be suprised if one day miraculously a revelation turned up that all this had been set up by someone much more powerful than bin laden.
ReplyDeleteWe can't even be sure if they really killed bin laden now. A few days ago news appeared that bin laden has been dead for 5 years. Of course, that's not the "official" explanation, but I've given up believing the official statements recently. We only hear what the media owners want us to hear, the independent voices are found only on internet and mostly ridiculised. What a pity.
Jakub - problem with conspiracy theories is that most of them are incomplete or are based on false premises, personally I believe in version which is most probable.
ReplyDeleteIn case of theory that Osama was dead for 5 or 10 years ago there are many questions that are not answered (for example: Why this information was hidden? Who was a man appering on Bin Laden Videos?, etc..." so I'd rather stick to the official version in this case.
Osama was the enemy number one. I've remember those comments and movies created just after destroying WTC. I'm pretty sure that half of them isn't aware why they hate him. Now they are celebrating because government wants. Similar to Saddam Husein death. Movie from capital punishment was emitted almost everywhere. Even children watched that. Second thing is we don't have a certainty if they killed real Osama. Why couldn't it be a look-alike (fetch) men? Supposedly Fidel Castro had many of them. Even Hitler had.
ReplyDeleteI think Osama bin Laden was only a chessman. In my opinion he wouldn't be able to plan everything from A to Z. I wouldn't be surprised if there were others - more powerful people standing behind.
Death of Osama? It's all politics ... The Americans have fun as in ancient Rome the people at the Olympics ... For me it is fun and personally do not believe in given us a date and circumstances of Osama death ..
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